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Installing a Lowrance Elite 4x-DSI Fishfinder

10/7/2015

 
Lowrance Fishfinder Kayak Install
My Lowrance Elite 4x-DSI was installed on my Abaco until i replaced it with the Raymarine Dragonfly so i decided to install the Lowrance unit on the Tempo. Here's a run through of how i installed it including:
  • Making a waterproof battery box
  • Making a battery box holder
  • Mounting the head unit 
  • Installing the transducer in-hull

As with the Raymarine Install the process can be applied to virtually any kayak and fish finder where the transducer needs to be mounted inside the hull.
Components used in this installation:

  • Lowrance Elite 4x-DSI
  • Scanstrut Deck Seal DS30-P for 30mm connectors and 9-14mm cables 
  • Scanstrut Deck Seal DS16-P for 16mm connectors and 2-8mm cables
  • 12v 7Ah Sealed Lead Acid Battery
  • 2-way Superseal Waterproof 12v Electrical Connector Plug 
  • Lock & Lock Watertight Rectangular Plastic Storage Container 1.9 Litre HPL818
  • Block of High-density Closed Cell Foam
  • RAM-B-101-LO11 Mount for Lowrance Elite-4 series fish finders - includes RAM 1" Ball Round Base with AMPS pattern, RAM Double Socket Arm for 1” ball and 1" ball Elite-4 adaptor
  • Chopping Board – 10mm thick
  • 1 m of 6mm bungee
  • 4 x Trifold Rivets or Stainless Steel Bolts, Nuts and Washers
  • Marine Goop 
Lowrance Fishfinder Kayak Install

Step 1 - Making a Waterproof Battery Box

I made a waterproof battery box for the Dragonfly install and made it so it could be transferred between kayaks and fish finders using a Superseal connector. Detailed instructions of how i made the battery box can be found on the following linked blog post: Installing a Raymarine Dragonfly 5-Pro. Note: if you are building the battery box for a Lowrance unit the power lead comes with insulated female spade end connectors already fitted. It is just a case of cutting the power lead around 12-16" from the end and fitting the male end of the super seal connector.
Waterproof Battery Box for Kayak
I only needed to fit the female end of a super seal connector to the power lead of the Lowrance so that it would be compatible with the battery box....easy!

Cut the power lead, strip back around 1" of the wire, slide on the rubber seals, crimp the male connectors onto the wires and plug these into the back of the female connector. A piece of insulation tape tidies things up.
Superseal Connector for Kayak Fishfinder
Superseal Connector for Kayak Fishfinder
Superseal Connector for Kayak Fishfinder

Step 2: Making a Battery Box Holder

I came up with this idea for the Dragonfly install in the Abaco and really like how it holds the battery in place inside the hull. I built a near identical one for the Tempo except i done away with the cable storage hole as the Tempo has a handy gap beside the front scuppers to hide the cables away.

Full instructions on how to made one can be found on the following linked blog post: Installing a Raymarine Dragonfly 5-Pro. 
Battery Box Holder for Kayak Fishfinder Battery
Here is it inside the hull of the Tempo - this is glued in place AFTER the transducer is glued inside the hull (Step 4)
Battery Box Holder for Kayak Fishfinder

Step 3 - Mounting the Lowrance Elite 4x-DSI Head Unit

Lowrance units come with their own mount but i wanted to utilise the Ram mounting system specific for Elite-4 units (RAM-B-101-LO11) that i had used when it was on my Abaco. This comprises of a RAM 1" Ball Round Base with AMPS pattern, a RAM Double Socket Arm for 1” ball and a 1" ball Elite-4 adaptor that plugs into the back of the Elite-4 unit.

I wanted the fish finder mounted in the centre of the footwell just forward of the drinks holder
Fitiing a fishfinder on an RTM Tempo
Holes were drilled for 4 fixing points
Fitting a Ram Ball to an RTM Tempo
I decided to use stainless steel bolts with a chopping board backing plate with countersunk nuts. I could have used marine trifold rivets but prefer the backing plate method for strength. I used the base as a template to cut out a circle of chopping board then drilled holes in identical positions to those on the kayak.
Ram Ball Backing Plate
I countersink the nuts into the chopping board by melting them in but you could equally just use washers and nuts against the chopping board or kayak hull. To countersink the nuts i thread them onto a bolt and heat them up using a lighter. 
Making a Ram ball backing plate with countersunk nuts
These are then pushed into the holes to melt the bolts into the chopping board, just be careful not to push them all the way through. The bolts will be red hot so use pliers or keep the bolt in a vice and push the chopping board down onto it. Once they are countersunk plunge it all in cold water to solidify the plastic. Then its just a case of unscrewing the bolt and repeating for the other 3 holes. Its quite time consuming and there is a knack to it but once you get the hang of it its quite easy.
Making a Ram ball backing plate with countersunk nuts
Making a Ram ball backing plate with countersunk nuts
Excess plastic can be filed away for a tidy finish. The bolts also needed to be cut down so that they are flush with the board when fixed in place. 
Making a Ram ball backing plate with countersunk nuts
Time to fit it to the Tempo - all the holes and the nuts should line up. A good covering of clear silicon over the base of the Ram ball and on the kayak for a waterproof seal. Excess can be neatly wiped away with a wet finger. Plenty of silicon on the backing plate too.
Fitting a Ram Ball to an RTM Tempo
Making a Ram ball backing plate with countersunk nuts
Fitting a Ram Ball to an RTM Tempo
As previously said trifold rivets or stainless steel bolts, washers and nuts would do the job fine - i just like the chopping board backing plate method.
The cables from the transducer and battery must pass through the hull of the kayak to plug into the back of the fish finder. For a waterproof seal i have routed my cables through a Scanstrut Deck Seal DS30-P. I decided on placing this towards the top of the central partition between the footwells. Any small flat area towards the bow end of the footwell are popular places to position a deck seal. A hole is drilled that is large enough to pass the fish finder transducer/power cable connector through. 
Fitting a fishfinder to an RTM Tempo
Next i assembled the the base of the deck seal, using the holes in the foam gasket to drill pilot holes in the kayak. I made another chopping board backing plate to give the screws something extra to screw into giving a stronger hold.
Fitting a Scanstrut deck seal to an RTM Tempo
Fitting a Scanstrut deck seal to an RTM Tempo
The pre-drilled holes in rubber blocks supplied with the DS30-P deck seal are too large for the power and transducer cables on the Elite-4 so i have drilled two holes in the blank block just slightly smaller than the cables. When this is clamped down under the deck seal cover it will wrap around the cables tightly forming a waterproof seal. A dab of marine goop or other sealant can be smeared around the cables and over the deck seal to fill any small gaps where water may ingress. Ensure there is enough cable outside the hull so that the connector plug can reach the back of the fish finder with some slack so that the connection isn't under stress and so that the fish finder can be moved on its mount. 
Fitting a Scanstrut deck seal to an RTM Tempo
Fitting a Scanstrut deck seal to an RTM Tempo
Installing a Lowrance Fishfinder on an RTM Tempo
Fitting a fishfinder on an RTM Tempo

Step 4 - Installing the Transducer in-hull

There are 3 main methods to install a transducer on a kayak: 

  • Scupper Mounted -  where the transducer is fixed underneath the kayak either against the scupper hole or more commonly inside a purpose moulded transducer scupper with the transducer wire coming up to the head unit through the scupper hole.

  • Arm Mounted - where the transducer is mounted on the end of an arm which goes over the side of the kayak. Ram Mounts make a flexible transducer arm that can be attached to the kayak via a ram ball that is fixed to the kayak or on a ram ball that is attached to the kayaks slide rails, if present. The arm can easily be moved in and out of the water to prevent damage when paddling over shallow rocks or when launching/landing. 

  • In-hull Mounted - where the transducer is either glued inside the kayak against the hull as a 'dry-mount' or placed within a small well against the hull that is filled with water as a 'wet-mount'. The dry-mount in-hull option appears to be the most common form of transducer installation, if scupper mounting is not an option, with Marine Goop or Sikaflex used as the adhesive to bond the transducer to the hull
The Tempo does not have a dedicated transducer scupper hole and i did not want to compromise the speed of the Tempo using a transducer arm so opted for in-hull mounting using Marine Goop. I used this method for mounting the Dragonfly transducer with excellent results. 

The transducer needs to be pushed down into a big blob of Marine Goop on the keel line of the hull but you MUST ensure no air bubbles are present in the glue before pushing down the transducer. Air bubbles causes interference with the sonar reading. Practice building up a blob of marine goop on some scrap cardboard or wood so that you know how best to apply it. I found that squeezing the goop out fast seemed to prevent any bubbles from getting into the goop

I used a rectangle of foam with a hole cut in the centre as a well to hold the marine goop. The foam well was glued in place first before filling carefully with Marine Goop. I filled the well around 5mm deep. 

Even after practicing you may get a couple of small air bubbles present in the glue - use the sharp end of a cable tie or something similar to scrape the bubbles out of the blob and use a small torch to illuminate the glue so that you can easily see where they are.
Marine Goop inside the hull for installing the transducer
The next part was tricky - when i pushed the transducer into the goop it kept wanting to sit at an angle. To keep the transducer in the right position i used a couple of small rocks as weights to keep it in position while the Marine Goop set. The Goop needs to be left for 24-48h to cure before use.  Once i was happy that the transducer had been glued in successfully i glued the battery block in place.
Kayak fishfinder transducer installed in-hull with Marine Goop
Battery Box holder for a kayak fish finder
The wires are all tidy and the battery box can easily be disconnected and removed for when the kayak is being transported. The battery box can also be moved to the Abaco for use with the Raymarine Dragonfly. The bungee keeps it all in place so if the kayak was to flip the battery wouldn't be thrown around potentially damaging the wires. 

The Finished Product

Fitting a fishfinder to a fishing kayak
I used the Elite-4x on an early morning lure fishing session in Plymouth sound and the unit appeared to work perfectly. The transducer install had been successful with no obvious loss of down scan imaging return. There were no signs of any air bubbles causing interference either. Depth reading appeared correct although temperature readings were a little way off - this was to be expected as the transducer is exposed to the air inside the hull. Resolution of DSI return was high in shallow water and relatively good even in deeper water.
Lowrance Elite 4x-dsi on the RTM Tempo
Lowrance Fishfinder on a RTM Tempo
A successful install - time to put it to good use to find me some structure and fish!
Norman Coughlan link
29/7/2015 23:25:13

Accurate installation, waterproof settings, adequate tool assortment and a very perfect technicality makes game fishing a real fun. Appreciate your guidance, very helpful!

Cornish Kayak Angler
6/12/2015 23:34:22

Thanks for your comment Norman, I'm glad it is helpful :)

Matthew link
6/12/2015 22:48:07

Another detailed guide, very accurate installation! Keep the good works!

Cornish Kayak Angler
6/12/2015 23:37:22

Thanks for your comment Matthew, i hope the article has been helpful :) The fish finder has been installed for nearly 5 months now and the installation is still going strong.

Kenny Gabriel
4/1/2018 21:49:56

Nice site. when you push the transducer into the GOOP does the Transducer rest against the kayak or is there a layer of goop between the transducer and haul?
Thank you!

Cornish Kayak Angler link
5/1/2018 09:17:37

Hi Kenny,

I just pushed the transducer down until it lightly rested against the hull. The idea is that you want the Goop to fill the gap between the transducer and the kayak so that the sonar can shoot through one solid block without any air gaps. A few mm of Goop between the transducer and the hull is not going to make any differance, as long as there is a solid block of material between the transducer and kayak hull.

I hope this helps!

Cheers,
Liam

Esther link
7/12/2020 07:42:53

Thanks for this blog post


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